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Postby Yrael » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:38 pm

The conversation for Noughts and Crosses was set up a few years ago, but didn't really start. I feel that as a group of intelligent book readers this is bad. This is one of the greatest Trilogies of all time (in my opinion) and i feel that it needs recognising.
The Trilogy was so good that i started reading other Malorie Blackman books, and i love them all. So i open this conversation to talk about:
a) The noughts and crosses trilogy
b) Malorie Blackman
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Re: Noughts and Crosses, Knifes Edge, Checkmate, Eye for an Eye

Postby Viorphon » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:40 pm

I have read the Trilogy.
I loved how it looked at racism in a totally new sort of way.
The way that the world had been turned upside down and then how Malorie had used a form of Hyperbole to blow the circumstances out of proportion was superb.
Which was your favourite?
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Re: Noughts and Crosses, Knifes Edge, Checkmate, Eye for an Eye

Postby Yrael » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:51 pm

Viorphon wrote:Which was your favourite?

Definitely Noughts and Crosses.
I preferred having Seph and Callum
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together because at the end when Callum is hung, iwas nearly in tears, it was soo beautifully written.

Though Knifes Edge and Checkmate are good.
I didn't find Eye for an Eye completely necessary. I read it after i had read the trilogy the first time round, and i only found that it explained a couple of things, but nothing necessary to understand the story.
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Re: Noughts and Crosses, Knifes Edge, Checkmate, Eye for an Eye

Postby Viorphon » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:22 pm

Absolutely the end of Noughts and Crosses
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was heart breaking the way they were separated and how you hear about how Callum had tried but the driver stopped them
I hate that driver!
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Re: Noughts and Crosses, Knifes Edge, Checkmate, Eye for an Eye

Postby Melancholy Man » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:09 am

I loved how it looked at racism in a totally new sort of way.


Oh, yes. Look how obvious brown plasters are on white dolls, I mean they're brown and the dolls aren't, how obvious is that!

Sorry, I found it worse than over-hyped; it was irresponsible with drivel about 'suicide' bombing which, at the time, was known to be hookum.

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Postby Qu Klaani » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:07 am

I remember having a whinge about the whole concept of this series...I think it was here, but I can't remember why.

I trust my judgement though, clearly the books are terrible, even if I don't know why.
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Postby bethanwy » Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:26 pm

I enjoyed Noughts and Crosses, but Knife Edge was terrible. I didn't bother with the rest of the series.
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Re: Noughts and Crosses, Knifes Edge, Checkmate, Eye for an Eye

Postby Jaya » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:34 pm

You know there's a new one out as of...um...about a month ago I think. Double Cross. But I agree with Bethan, the entire series after Noughts and Crosses is fairly unnecessary.
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Re: Noughts and Crosses, Knifes Edge, Checkmate, Eye for an Eye

Postby Yrael » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:38 pm

owatts93darkmaterials fan wrote:This is one of the greatest Trilogies of all time (in my opinion) and i feel that it needs recognising.
The Trilogy was so good that i started reading other Malorie Blackman books, and i love them all. So i open this conversation to talk about:


Hmmmmm I may have to re-think this.
I'm starting to agree, i just looked at Knifes edge and Checkmate. And they were pretty poor compared to Noughts and Crosses.
But has anyone read any other Malorie Blackman work.
I read cloud busting which i loved.
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Re: Noughts and Crosses, Knifes Edge, Checkmate, Eye for an Eye

Postby Angel to follow » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:40 pm

I think they're fantastic books.
I've never been raised to be rascist but I had never really thought about what it must be like to be to live with that level of rascism directed at me on a day to day basis. The book forced me to really consider rascism from another perspective.

Having said that the books were somewhat redundant for me because i'm not a rascist. I really think that these books should be mandatory in schools because they are so poignant and powerful.
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Re: Noughts and Crosses, Knifes Edge, Checkmate, Eye for an Eye

Postby Yrael » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:29 pm

Angel to follow wrote:Having said that the books were somewhat redundant for me because i'm not a rascist. I really think that these books should be mandatory in schools because they are so poignant and powerful.


Yes it would allow racism to be seen in a new light, in a format that is bearable to pay attention to.
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Re: Noughts and Crosses, Knifes Edge, Checkmate, Eye for an Eye

Postby Philharmonic » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 am

yup, i do need to say that Knife Edge and Checkmate were pretty terrible (KE worse by far)

has anyone read blackman's most recent book (i think) The Stuff of Nightmares?

i know why she called it that too...its giving me nightmares
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