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Discuss the companion books of the HDM trilogy: Lyra's Oxford and Once Upon a Time in the North.

Postby Isobel » Thu Apr 17, 2003 5:08 am

Exactly.
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Postby Pyr » Thu Apr 17, 2003 6:14 am

thats my word and my post. please refrain from using that particular one word post again, thank you.
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Postby jessia » Thu Apr 17, 2003 5:30 pm

i don't mind illustrations or movies. if the book was powerful enough to create distinct images in my head, they can't go away.
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Postby random guy » Sat Apr 19, 2003 1:30 am

oh... we can help that...
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Postby King Ogunwe » Sat Apr 19, 2003 7:15 am

these will just clarify them a little, because your head probably isn't exactly right... :D
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Postby jessia » Sat Apr 19, 2003 5:15 pm

LoL

did anyone's visions of quidditch get ruined when they say harry potter?
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Postby Will » Sat Apr 19, 2003 5:24 pm

I don't get any visions when I 'say Harry Potter' :lol:

A lot depends on the direction the director takes with the HDM movies - whether he sticks to the books or stays true to the spirit. PP has already said that for him it will be a reimagining of the same tale from a different perspective - so perhaps places and people won't be too similar to the books at all. How strong is everyone's mental image of things in HDM? I'd rate mine at about an 8.
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Postby random guy » Sat Apr 19, 2003 7:09 pm

mine about 8 or 9
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Postby King Ogunwe » Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:50 am

seven or so...
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Postby Daniel » Mon Apr 21, 2003 5:50 pm

8.5 or so... if it were any stronger i'd still be thinking of "dæmon" as "DAY-mon" and "Iorek" as "EYE-oh-wreck."
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Postby random guy » Mon Apr 21, 2003 11:12 pm

its NOT day-mon, its Dee-mon...
some people just cant read now-a-days...
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Postby King Ogunwe » Tue Apr 22, 2003 1:31 am

i always think of it as Day-mon... dunno, just feels right...
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Postby Daniel » Tue Apr 22, 2003 1:39 am

random guy wrote:its NOT day-mon, its Dee-mon...
some people just cant read now-a-days...


i know, what i was saying is that if my mental image of the books were stronger i wouldn't have been able to switch to saying it the right way.

and the æ isn't a commonly taught letter of the alphabet -- you can't blame people for pronouncing it wrong (unless they take Latin).
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Postby random guy » Tue Apr 22, 2003 1:52 am

oh..
sorry, I misinturpreted your post, I thought you meant that you would SEE the words in your mind
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Postby jessia » Tue Apr 22, 2003 5:07 am

do you get better images from books hearing it read (e.g. "storytime" or audiobooks), or reading it yourself?

i couldn't get a hold of a copy of the amberspyglass, so i had to hear the audio book first. now i permanently think they all sound like that.
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Postby jessia » Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:45 pm

the harpies were frightening... the mark of a good audio-book-reader, LoL. - able to frighen audience.
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Postby Nix » Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:09 pm

serafina sounded like she was about to burst into tears at any moment
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Postby Kyrillion » Wed Sep 24, 2003 9:25 pm

I loved the audio books! PP was brilliant as narrator (and that isn't a given with authors). And Lyra, after a squeaky start settled down to be very good. I love that bit at the end, when her voice breaks with sadness: 'We got it wrong, though, Pan. We got it all wrong about Roger. We thought we were helping him.' (and since, for some reason, this line en't in the British editions, it was a nice surprise to hear it for the first time).

I though Iorek's voice was near-perfect - emotionless, flat, growly, accented (Finnish?). And Iofur was good too. In the plays they made Iofur Northumbrian for some reason. Yeah, Serefina was good. And Ruta Skadi was wicked in TSK - when she's relating her story with the cliff-ghasts, and she's excitedly imitating all the speakers. Cool.

Panatalaimon seems to be a recurring problem. Should he have a little boy's voice? A man? A bit estuary, like Lyra's? Or posher? Feminine or masculine? Should it change according to form. Did you notice in the audio tape, how he acquired a welsh accent at the end of chapter five?

Oh, one bad thing about the tapes - the child extras were terrible.




... ... Oh that was it. Um, I don't think adaptations can RUIN your perception of the book (especially in such a strongly told story as HDM) but they can change things. Especially in areas not much described in the books. For instance. I have a very vague mental picture of Serefina, but that is probably totally different to all of yours since she isn't much described. Even her hair colour is a mystery. Once I see her on film, I might always picture he that way.

Does anyone imagine the characters exactly how they appear on their editions front cover? I love my original copy of Northern Lights (an old British one, with Lyra and Iorek standing side-by-side, Lyra reading the alethiometer) but I think the kid is too old and strongly-built for Lyra. We've never had a picture of Will on British front covers, and all through TSK I imagined him black. But when I saw the American edition, I started to see him as white.
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Postby TonyOn » Wed Sep 24, 2003 9:29 pm

Kyrillion wrote:
I though Iorek's voice was near-perfect - emotionless, flat, growly, accented (Finnish?).


I've never heard the audio books so I can't tell if he spoke with a finnish accent or not, but he wasn't supposed to, that's for certain...
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Postby Will » Wed Sep 24, 2003 9:47 pm

Witch-girl wrote:Yes! So high, and sad, like a violin....*suddenly mimicks Serafina* King Iorek Byrinison, I am wretched with remorse!

Ah, you're right, she really did sound like she was about to burst into tears.... :cry:


That's because it was bloody Noddy!
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