The Republic of Heaven

In TSK, well in fact at the end of NL/TGC it says that Lyra crosses from the bride in the north, then in TSK she says that she arrived in Cittigaze (if that's spelt right!) on a cliff, Will arrives from oxford and arrives in Cittigaze, but at the end of TASG It says that Will and Lyra's Worlds are overlapping, so how come Lyra comes from the north, but just meters away from where she ends up is her Oxford, i hope this question makes scence, i just want to know how this works, maybe this connected to how Mrs Coulter manages to get the Himilaya's in one day, make friends with the village and get settled in? Or maybe how Lord Asriel sets up the biggest army ever, builds a fortress, and does everthing else in a matter of days, or again am i just randomly confused about something simple, if so SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!




Thank you!

Well, it does say in one of the books ( I forget which one) that Lyra and Will's worlds are overlapping, but one universe is slightly off the other. Imagine two world maps laid flat on a table . Then imagine the top one being move up and then right a little. This means that England would be to the right of where Svalbard is and the Cittagazze would be inbetween, kind of like a walkway. If you search around on the internet, you should be able to find a map, with our world in red, and Lyra's world in green.

owatts93darkmaterials fan wrote:In TSK, well in fact at the end of NL/TGC it says that Lyra crosses from the bride in the north, then in TSK she says that she arrived in Cittigaze (if that's spelt right!) on a cliff, Will arrives from oxford and arrives in Cittigaze, but at the end of TASG It says that Will and Lyra's Worlds are overlapping, so how come Lyra comes from the north, but just meters away from where she ends up is her Oxford, i hope this question makes scence, i just want to know how this works, maybe this connected to how Mrs Coulter manages to get the Himilaya's in one day, make friends with the village and get settled in? Or maybe how Lord Asriel sets up the biggest army ever, builds a fortress, and does everthing else in a matter of days, or again am i just randomly confused about something simple, if so SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!

Well, it says that the worlds are a bit out of synch and that this will be mended after the closing of all the windows, so that only then will Lyra's and Will's Oxfords be in the same place. But flawless logic doesn't belong to the strengths of the story anyway, so just don't think too much about it. There are many more weird things that are hard to explain.

And of course Lyra walks for days and days to get there-eating berrys and stuff...

Yes but at the end they can just cut between the two oxfords, no travelling required!

No, they do have to travel at the end. Will leaves for his Oxford first, and then Lyra travels with the gyptians all the way back through to her own Oxford.

Xaphania tells them that once all the windows are closed, the worlds will return to their proper relations with each other, so that Will and Lyra's Oxford are in the same place again.

I think it was Lord Asriel's bridge that threw everything out of synch; Lord Boreal comments that the places the windows lead to have shifted since that opening in the north was made.

owatts93darkmaterials fan wrote:Yes but at the end they can just cut between the two oxfords, no travelling required!

They cut between Will's Oxford and Cittagazze.

Oh i see now, thank you very much Jez, i thought he cut a window for Lyra as well then he left for his oxford, sorry i had a misunderstanding there.