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Postby Æsahættr » Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:33 pm

I agree with All_That_Jazz the Sally Lockhart series is definately PP's next best work after HDM. And it has a happy ending!
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Postby All_That_Jazz » Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:16 am

Æsahættr wrote: And it has a happy ending!


Huzzah! :D
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Postby Nix » Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:42 pm

Shadow in the Plate doesn't...
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Postby B2d2003 » Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:51 am

it depends what you look in in a book what is te best pullman for you? personally love them all but hey!
Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.

I wish outer space guys would conquer the Earth and make people their pets, because I'd like to have one of those little beds with my name on it.

I wonder why everyone is staring at me like that?
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Postby Æsahættr » Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:25 pm

Nix wrote:Shadow in the Plate doesn't...


Yeh, I meant the series of books a whole.
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Postby Dess » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:24 am

I just read Clockwork today... I started and finished it today... it was really interesting. I would've liked to have seen it longer, though and with no pictures.
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Postby jessia » Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:42 am

but leonid gore's animations were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO beautiful! i loved the pictures! <sighs> it's no longer for sale in hardcover.

and generally, pullman's fairytales aren't too long.
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Postby All_That_Jazz » Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:49 am

I can't remember, but I think Clockwork really freaked me out...I think I was 11 when I read it, and I took it out of the library because I was hoping it was the third book of HDM lol...I had a bit of a surprise...it was good, though!
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Postby jessia » Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:54 am

<nods> it was all haunting and gothic. i read it when i was 15, not quite as scary... but beautiful and haunting and gothic, especially accompanied by the illustrations.
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Postby B2d2003 » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:45 pm

clockwork is a seriously freaky book when you are young but having read for the sixth time i don't think it is that bad. Perhaps it is because as you grow different things freak you out? any thoughts on this?
Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.

I wish outer space guys would conquer the Earth and make people their pets, because I'd like to have one of those little beds with my name on it.

I wonder why everyone is staring at me like that?
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Postby jessia » Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:08 pm

or the things you *know* don't exist... or desensitisation <my case>.

to me, it wasn't scary, or freaky... but chilling and haunting... those kind of adjectives more. it was a beautiful book.
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Postby All_That_Jazz » Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:08 pm

Yeah, it wasn't so much the story that scared me, just the style of it, you know? Like a fairy tale. Maybe I'll read it again...
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Postby B2d2003 » Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:35 pm

ok then someone out there agrees with me!
Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.

I wish outer space guys would conquer the Earth and make people their pets, because I'd like to have one of those little beds with my name on it.

I wonder why everyone is staring at me like that?
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Postby B2d2003 » Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:35 pm

also has all that jazzz been watchng to much of the musical chicago?
Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.

I wish outer space guys would conquer the Earth and make people their pets, because I'd like to have one of those little beds with my name on it.

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Postby All_That_Jazz » Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:17 pm

Actually, no, its from the musical "All That Jazz," and it's because I'm a jazz dancer.
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Postby B2d2003 » Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:24 am

well it had to be one or the other. my friend does jazz we sometimes practice together, i play the trumpet she dances.
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Postby Enitharmon » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:40 am

Um... I've read Galatea. Has anybody else?

Very strange....

And some interesting foreshadowings
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Postby Alewyn » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:50 am

how'd you get it???
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Postby Ian » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:03 pm

eBay.
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Is this heaven?...No, it's Iowa

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Postby Enitharmon » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:10 pm

Ian wrote:eBay.


From ebay it came and to ebay it is returning.

I was thinking about it this morning before I got up. It's a quest novel and a personal journey, like HDM, but I think the probklem is that it doesn't come off. I can't help but compare it with Hermann Hesse's Steppenwolf, in which the misnathropic protagonist is led into a mystical sequence through which he grows spiritually. In HDM too Lyra grows through the narrative. But Martin Browning, the protagonist of Galatea, hardly grows at all through his mystical journey. At the end he's as hard-nosed as ever.

Galatea is a first person narrative, and I believe somewhere recently PP has expressed his dislike of first-person narratives.
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