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	<title>Comments on: How Hollywood Saved God</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;sighÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ i really wanted to wait for the films release to make any judgments about the film, but reading all this is really depressing.

what a shame.&quot;

Then do.  This article tells us nothing we didn&#039;t already know, and what it does tell us, it says with a spin.  Remain optimistic, see the movie, and don&#039;t condemn it until you actually know what it&#039;s like.  Presumptions based on slanted journalism are completely out of place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;sighÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ i really wanted to wait for the films release to make any judgments about the film, but reading all this is really depressing.</p>
<p>what a shame.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then do.  This article tells us nothing we didn&#8217;t already know, and what it does tell us, it says with a spin.  Remain optimistic, see the movie, and don&#8217;t condemn it until you actually know what it&#8217;s like.  Presumptions based on slanted journalism are completely out of place.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how they will even do the second and especially the third movie without religious elements. I mean, what are they going to totally remove the angels? The third book is all about religion, its the &quot;bigger picture&quot; to the whole adventure. Are they going to replace &quot;God&quot; with some magesterium kingpin and have to fight him...not in the clouded mountain, no...just on earth in some big palace? And how will they draw so much emotion in Will and Lyra&#039;s parting if the reason they are separating is obscured?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how they will even do the second and especially the third movie without religious elements. I mean, what are they going to totally remove the angels? The third book is all about religion, its the &#8220;bigger picture&#8221; to the whole adventure. Are they going to replace &#8220;God&#8221; with some magesterium kingpin and have to fight him&#8230;not in the clouded mountain, no&#8230;just on earth in some big palace? And how will they draw so much emotion in Will and Lyra&#8217;s parting if the reason they are separating is obscured?</p>
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		<title>By: cc</title>
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		<dc:creator>cc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick message for green ink here. This may seem very after the fact as there is a swathe of comments inbetween your last posting but although i&#039;m not a massive Alan Moore fan I do admire his integrity. DC comics own the rights to a lot of his work (which he thought would revert back to him after a certain time, DC found a way round this though) and it is precisely because he has had such a raw deal with adaptations that he now only publishes his work through companies that allow him to keep the rights to his work. He isn&#039;t a hypocrite, just a man who has wised up to the way that corporate America works. Similarly Pullman sold the rights to Northern Lights before the acclaim really came his way, so he relinquished control over a film version of the story before it became important to so many people. Of course Pullman wants a good version of his story but he doesn&#039;t have to endorse this product, which is what it has become. I&#039;m personally not looking forward to walking down the streets of my local town and sees the umpteenth armoured bear happy meal packaging discarded as litter but that is neither here nor there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick message for green ink here. This may seem very after the fact as there is a swathe of comments inbetween your last posting but although i&#8217;m not a massive Alan Moore fan I do admire his integrity. DC comics own the rights to a lot of his work (which he thought would revert back to him after a certain time, DC found a way round this though) and it is precisely because he has had such a raw deal with adaptations that he now only publishes his work through companies that allow him to keep the rights to his work. He isn&#8217;t a hypocrite, just a man who has wised up to the way that corporate America works. Similarly Pullman sold the rights to Northern Lights before the acclaim really came his way, so he relinquished control over a film version of the story before it became important to so many people. Of course Pullman wants a good version of his story but he doesn&#8217;t have to endorse this product, which is what it has become. I&#8217;m personally not looking forward to walking down the streets of my local town and sees the umpteenth armoured bear happy meal packaging discarded as litter but that is neither here nor there.</p>
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		<title>By: australis</title>
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		<dc:creator>australis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(dreams...)The film doesn&#039;t bomb, but doesn&#039;t make a mint, either. New Line decide they never did like HDM all that much anyway, and sell the rights for the next two films to an English production company, or French, or German, or, heck, ANYBODY that will not be afraid to give the story a little depth and meaning. This mythical production company then reshoots excised scenes from TGC and re-releases it, with the promise of making the sequels true to the spirit of the source material. (sigh) Dream on...

Back in the real world...

As I see it now, the NL sequels could go two ways. 1. The kiddies liked it, lets dumb down the next two to the same degree and we can&#039;t miss! 2. TGC made us buckets of money, let&#039;s say to hell with the whinging fundamentalist religeous minority, and make two films that show Hollywood can confound the critics and have some artistic integrity after all.

OK people, based on past experience, what&#039;s the more likely?

I really wonder if any NL execs actually read HDM to the end, and thought, yes, we&#039;re happy with showing the death of a god-figure, a war on heaven, the possibility of intimacy between children (depending how you read it), and (to many people) one hell of a downer of an ending.

They&#039;re presumably smart enough to know what they would be getting themselves into, but you really do wonder. 

An emasculated TGC may be a success, but given the poor box office of fantasy films of late (and TGC will be classed as that by many people who do not know the books) TGC may do no better. Retaining the religeous/philosophical aspects of the story may have garnered more controversy (read publicity) but we would surely have ended up with a richer, more memorable cinema experience.

As PP has said, they haven&#039;t done anything to his books, they&#039;re still there sitting on the shelf. Trouble is, after a film is made of a book, with good, bad or indifferent results, one&#039;s perception of the book cannot help but be influenced by the movie. Usually not for the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(dreams&#8230;)The film doesn&#8217;t bomb, but doesn&#8217;t make a mint, either. New Line decide they never did like HDM all that much anyway, and sell the rights for the next two films to an English production company, or French, or German, or, heck, ANYBODY that will not be afraid to give the story a little depth and meaning. This mythical production company then reshoots excised scenes from TGC and re-releases it, with the promise of making the sequels true to the spirit of the source material. (sigh) Dream on&#8230;</p>
<p>Back in the real world&#8230;</p>
<p>As I see it now, the NL sequels could go two ways. 1. The kiddies liked it, lets dumb down the next two to the same degree and we can&#8217;t miss! 2. TGC made us buckets of money, let&#8217;s say to hell with the whinging fundamentalist religeous minority, and make two films that show Hollywood can confound the critics and have some artistic integrity after all.</p>
<p>OK people, based on past experience, what&#8217;s the more likely?</p>
<p>I really wonder if any NL execs actually read HDM to the end, and thought, yes, we&#8217;re happy with showing the death of a god-figure, a war on heaven, the possibility of intimacy between children (depending how you read it), and (to many people) one hell of a downer of an ending.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re presumably smart enough to know what they would be getting themselves into, but you really do wonder. </p>
<p>An emasculated TGC may be a success, but given the poor box office of fantasy films of late (and TGC will be classed as that by many people who do not know the books) TGC may do no better. Retaining the religeous/philosophical aspects of the story may have garnered more controversy (read publicity) but we would surely have ended up with a richer, more memorable cinema experience.</p>
<p>As PP has said, they haven&#8217;t done anything to his books, they&#8217;re still there sitting on the shelf. Trouble is, after a film is made of a book, with good, bad or indifferent results, one&#8217;s perception of the book cannot help but be influenced by the movie. Usually not for the better.</p>
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		<title>By: OH MY GOD! They Killed God! Those Bastards! &#171; ProcrastinatioNation</title>
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		<dc:creator>OH MY GOD! They Killed God! Those Bastards! &#171; ProcrastinatioNation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] knows that if he whines too much the big mean studio will pull the plug on the next two movies. Bridgetothestars.net[5] summarizes his stand (culled from an article in Atlantic Monthly, subscription access). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] knows that if he whines too much the big mean studio will pull the plug on the next two movies. Bridgetothestars.net[5] summarizes his stand (culled from an article in Atlantic Monthly, subscription access). [...]</p>
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